Reno Peavine Target Shooters: 3 Houses Hit By 223 Rounds





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I live in a housing development between Red Rock and Stead Blvd. The sound of gunfire is pretty common coming from Mt. Peavine on the weekends. Last month my next door neighbor's house and 2 houses behind his were hit by a single 223 round each. No casualties just property damage. Police reports were taken. We surmise it came from "somewhere up Peavine".
A friend of mine, who is a retired RPD officer, thinks it may have come from the freeway (395) which is close by. Part of me wants to go the BLM and engage in "shut her down" conversation. The other part of me balks at that because I don't want to play in the hands of the anti-gun crowd. Even though there are no "No Shooting" signs posted up there, the prominent shooting spots don't meet the Washoe County guidelines. What are your thoughts?
 

Dr. Marneaus

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Obviously the stupid "congested area" (poop) doesnt mean anything to ALOT of people. I live in Golden Valley and am bordered by BLM. People think if they cant se a house they can shoot. Trouble is, law requires you to be 5000 feet from a house AS WELL AS being in an area that isnt prohibited.

I spend alot of time in my yard, and especially in the summer months there are TONS of times when I hear gunshots that are WAY closer than 5000'. I report it when I know they are shooting just up the road from me for a few reasons.

1. Because like it or not, thems the rules. If i have to abide by the rules (which I do) so does everybody else.

2. I live right there. When I hear sharp reports from a rifle or pistol, you are too damn close. Maybe you're shooting in a responsible direction, but given by the fact that you take no hed to local law, im gonna assume the opposite.

3. Fires. It DOES NOT feel good to watch a bunch of BLM tankers and fire crews drive past your house on their way into the public land directly behind you that you know is full if numbnuts shooting on a 100* day in knee high cheat grass. I should go out and take pics of the burned areas less than a mile from my house.
 

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For those not familiar with distances...the law is "1 mile", not 5000 feet. I only mention that because there are people who don't know the diff between 5000 feet and 50000 feet (Nancy Pelosi, perhaps?).

Curious why the OP does not seem to consider the retired LEO opinion that it came from the freeway. Unfortunately, shooting from, or near, a freeway is very common in metro areas.
 
#5
The reason why I'm not too much in favor of the freeway shooting scenario is that the houses that were hit are pretty much in a straight line indicating a stationary shooter. If one was shooting from a traveling vehicle, the houses hit from that scenario would be spread down the street over a large number of feet/yards.
 

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I’m not feeling like I have enough info to decide on a course of action. If you’re saying the shots came from Peavine but also could have come from the freeway, I’m that as all homes involved are on the east side of the freeway? If so, that’s seems like a fairly incredible distance to fling a .223 into three different doors (from beyond the houses on the west side of the freeway, I mean). Almost smells of something specifically targetted.

I think the BLM would likely refer you back to county or even Forest Service based on past things I’ve read. There was a super active group on fb in the past working to get shooters kicked off of Peavine, and they gained some traction with the county and sheriff’s office. Maybe the sheriff has slacked off in enforcement on Peavine in recent days. I hate to suggest doing nothing, but I’d also hate to see the county come down with some new anti-shooting measures too. Tough call for me.
 

Cirdan

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Carson City also closed it's range during the week. It's only open on weekends with a range master. Some moron(s) were shooting over the hill (backstop) with rounds impacting over at the dump.

You have to be either a) a REALLY bad shot or b) incredible stupid to shoot over the top of the hill that backstops the range there.
 

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Carson City also closed it's range during the week. It's only open on weekends with a range master. Some moron(s) were shooting over the hill (backstop) with rounds impacting over at the dump.

You have to be either a) a REALLY bad shot or b) incredible stupid to shoot over the top of the hill that backstops the range there.
For those who don't know, the top of the hill at the Carson range is pretty high. I would say would have to angle your rifle at least 30 degrees elevation just to aim at the top. And, the crest of the hill is probably about 600 yards from the tables...hard to make a mistake, repeatedly. The real shame is that shooters could go out there any time and shoot targets. A lot of people have weekend schedules that don't have time for shooting. Now, that is the only time one can shoot there. It only takes one azzhat to screw it up for everyone. I wish they had mounted motion-detection cameras so they could tie the times the shots came over the hill to the people who were there.
 
#9
Last Friday, a few days before I started this thread, I did take a drive up Peavine to scrounge some brass. To my surprise, there was a WCSO vehicle parked alongside the main access road. The deputy was inside. No shooting was heard at the time. I thought about stopping and starting a conversation about the shootings but didn't. Sometimes LEO's don't want to engage in conversation with the public.

And yes...the homes are on the east side of the freeway.
 
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It's only going to get worse as more and more complexes get built ... Luckily I know some places out in the middle of nowhere ... most 4x4 Rambo's don't dare go cuz they might get dirty
 

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FWIW pretty much all of Peavine has been closed, much more than just a few years ago. They used to adhere to the 1000 feet from a "dwelling" for shotguns, 1 mile for everything else rule, plus certain other "congested areas" and the mountain was mapped, and marked with signs, accordingly. I got the county maps online, found myself a legal, sheltered draw which was easy to access off the west end of Hogue Rd (west of Bonanza Casino) and shot there for a couple of years. Then last year a bicylist rode by and politely told me the area was no longer legal for shooting. The sign marking the restricted area boundary was still nearby, and I pointed it out to the rider, but he insisted the area was closed.

The next day I called WCSO and talked to a deputy who acknowledged the old signs were still in place, but that most of Peavine had been closed to shooting of rifles and pistols, except for hunters with a valid big game tag for areas 194/196, during the associated season, subject to the previous distance from dwelling restrictions. The NW side of the mountain is still pretty open, and certain deep draws, but no part that looks down over settled areas, no matter how far away. Get a recent map, and beware outdated signs.
 
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The road that travels up to the towers on top, which is accessed from N. Virginia near the storage facility, has no warning signs stating it is a restricted area. As the dirt road traverses up Peavine, there are 3 basic "shooting spots". They are littered with all kinds of "target practice" debris. The shooting spots are less than 5000 feet from occupied dwellings with addresses on N. Virginia.
 

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The road that travels up to the towers on top, which is accessed from N. Virginia near the storage facility, has no warning signs stating it is a restricted area. As the dirt road traverses up Peavine, there are 3 basic "shooting spots". They are littered with all kinds of "target practice" debris. The shooting spots are less than 5000 feet from occupied dwellings with addresses on N. Virginia.
There are many spots on Peavine littered with spent cases and debris which are not legal shooting locations. As I noted, you cannot trust signs, or a lack of signs. Get a recent county map showing current restricted areas, or roll the dice - your choice.
 
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1. Because like it or not, thems the rules. If i have to abide by the rules (which I do) so does everybody else.
The fact that you choose to follow rules you don't like doesn't in my mind provide any good reason to tattle on others who choose differently. If you dislike a rule and yet help enforce it, you are complicit with the harm that rule causes to people.

2. I live right there. When I hear sharp reports from a rifle or pistol, you are too damn close. Maybe you're shooting in a responsible direction, but given by the fact that you take no hed to local law, im gonna assume the opposite.
Non-sequitur to assume lack of following the law has anything to do with safety. Many laws, especially gun laws, encourage unsafe behavior, such as restrictions on sound suppressors, limitations on barrel shrouds, etc.

Imagine car laws forbidding mufflers and windshields. That would be similar to how many gun laws are crafted.

The fact is, in the local area there are places that are illegal to shoot despite being basically little craters surrounded on all sides by mountains and the county commission recently banned shooting even BB guns in such a spot north of Pevine because of complaints of shooters on Pevine. Many other such areas are 3000-5000 feet away from dwellings. Meanwhile there are areas practically touching the highway that are legal to shoot because they meet that magical 5000 foot rule from a dwelling even though they are only hundreds of feet from cars. Even in California, I've never seen a regulation requiring a 5000 foot distance. 5000 feet is the farthest I've seen from any regulation anywhere.

Overall shooters are being pushed out of safer areas and into less safe areas by the County Commissions blind creation of congested areas based on maps of areas they've never even seen.

When the county creates firearms shooting restrictions they are more interested in snubbing gun owners than anything to do with safety. I'm pretty sure the end goal of the county commission is to force all shooters to use the Washoe county shooting range or indoor ranges in Reno. That way they can get taxes off of every range trip you make.

3. Fires. It DOES NOT feel good to watch a bunch of BLM tankers and fire crews drive past your house on their way into the public land directly behind you that you know is full if numbnuts shooting on a 100* day in knee high cheat grass. I should go out and take pics of the burned areas less than a mile from my house.
You know most of the fires blamed on shooters are probably actually caused by 4 wheelers.
 
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Cirdan

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I haven't shot at the Carson range for a couple of years. Where I live it's easier just to head out onto BLM land. Have to be very careful and listen for engine noises.

Hope those trying to shut it down realize how much worse it will be if everyone does the same thing - swithces to BLM land. Uncontrolled shooting on land shared with hikers, horse riders, dirt bikers, and quads.
 

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The fact that you choose to follow rules you don't like doesn't in my mind provide any good reason to tattle on others who choose differently. If you dislike a rule and yet help enforce it, you are complicit with the harm that rule causes to people.

Non-sequitur to assume lack of following the law has anything to do with safety. Many laws, especially gun laws, encourage unsafe behavior, such as restrictions on sound suppressors, limitations on barrel shrouds, etc.

Imagine car laws forbidding mufflers and windshields. That would be similar to how many gun laws are crafted.

The fact is, in the local area there are places that are illegal to shoot despite being basically little craters surrounded on all sides by mountains and the county commission recently banned shooting even BB guns in such a spot north of Pevine because of complaints of shooters on Pevine. Many other such areas are 3000-5000 feet away from dwellings. Meanwhile there are areas practically touching the highway that are legal to shoot because they meet that magical 5000 foot rule from a dwelling even though they are only hundreds of feet from cars. Even in California, I've never seen a regulation requiring a 5000 foot distance. 5000 feet is the farthest I've seen from any regulation anywhere.

Overall shooters are being pushed out of safer areas and into less safe areas by the County Commissions blind creation of congested areas based on maps of areas they've never even seen.

When the county creates firearms shooting restrictions they are more interested in snubbing gun owners than anything to do with safety. I'm pretty sure the end goal of the county commission is to force all shooters to use the Washoe county shooting range or indoor ranges in Reno. That way they can get taxes off of every range trip you make.



You know most of the fires blamed on shooters are probably actually caused by 4 wheelers.
The end game will be to close the Washoe County range and turn it over to Friends of Nevada Wilderness or the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe who are the two adjacent landholders. It's going to happen sooner or later considering that the county really does not want to have ownership of the range.
 

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The end game will be to close the Washoe County range and turn it over to Friends of Nevada Wilderness or the Pyramid Lake Paiute Tribe who are the two adjacent landholders. It's going to happen sooner or later considering that the county really does not want to have ownership of the range.
Not saying you're wrong, but I was told by Dick Beck, former rangemaster at WCRSF, that the land was donated by McCulloch to Washoe County. As I recall (not sure about this part) it was donated specifically for establishing a shooting range. The status and terms could have since changed, or Dick's knowledge could have been imperfect, but there it is. If you could provide citations, I'd be happy to be corrected.
 

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Not saying you're wrong, but I was told by Dick Beck, former rangemaster at WCRSF, that the land was donated by McCulloch to Washoe County. As I recall (not sure about this part) it was donated specifically for establishing a shooting range. The status and terms could have since changed, or Dick's knowledge could have been imperfect, but there it is. If you could provide citations, I'd be happy to be corrected.
I don't doubt that is what the terms of the donation was for, but I have talked enough with Friends of Nevada Wilderness members and they consider the range to impede their mission with the land they own. I also have observed that in other situations the Pyramid Tribe has clawed land through various chicanery and I don't doubt that they would act to take ownership of the land if it was presented.

All it would take to close down the range looking at California as an example is some encroachment by development and looking at what they want to do with the Moon Rocks recreational area it will happen sooner than we all would like.
 

brians356

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Personally, I don't shoot at the range any longer. I sponsored (i.e. paid for) one of the steel/concrete benches out there. (Not that I cared, but they even stated there would be a small plaque affixed with my name on it.) For years I bought a season pass. Then a few years ago I went out to shoot and the rangemaster who took over for Scott Brothers (and whose name I happily forget) said "Sorry, the range is full, you'll have to wait." There were at least fifteen empty benches, and target frames available. When I pointed these facts out to him, he got huffy and said "Doesn't matter, pal. I decide when there are too many shooters for me to handle." That was the last time I set foot on the place. I built myself a heavy but portable bench, and found a dandy spot on BLM land to do my bench shooting. However, if they closed the range it would mean many more people steaming out into the desert, competing with me for a place to shoot without interference, so I hope it never closes.