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Shipping a 22 pistol out of state to have work done on it






oly29

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Question, can I ship a pistol to a FFL gun smith in another state? I am going to get my dad's High Standard Model B back in shooting condition. The gun smith is in Oregon.
 

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He has a license to receive it. You can't use USPS, but have to use a private carrier like UPS or FedEx, and you'll probably have to go to the hub. Most of the franchise stores won't do it. It may be easier to just pay a local gunshop to ship it for you.
 

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Ship it in two boxes, FedEx..gun parts. The way my guy recommended for least expense, and no reason to say what is in them. And, not at a FedEx place, just one of the "mailbox stores."
 

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no reason to say what is in them.
May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]
 

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May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

In addition, federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]
gun parts....not a firearm. At least, this is how one of the best smith's in the country recommended doing it.
 

JTW_Jr

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gun parts....not a firearm. At least, this is how one of the best smith's in the country recommended doing it.
If you are shipping a pistol ( which is what the OP is asking about ) , just by " breaking it down " does not reduce it to " parts " , one part is still a regulated title 1 item , aka firearm.
 

JTW_Jr

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Except he specifically asked about " Question, can I ship a pistol to a FFL gun smith in another state? "

Pistol , not " parts ". :)
 

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Except he specifically asked about " Question, can I ship a pistol to a FFL gun smith in another state? "

Pistol , not " parts ". :)
so...ship it in two boxes for the least expense?
 

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I guess OP will need to determine who’s opinion what a “firearm” is more important: The ATF or UPS/FedEx.
I would think that the corporate lawyers may have sorted that out, but since I'm no lawyer?....how would I know.
Just followed an FFL with 40 years receiving and shipping experience advice and adhered to a shipping giant's corporate policy.
 

secretasianman

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I would think that the corporate lawyers may have sorted that out,
UPS: How to Ship Firearms or Ammunition

Handguns, as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921, will be accepted for transportation only via UPS Next Day Air Services, specifically, UPS Next Day Air® Early, UPS Next Day Air®, and UPS Next Day Air Saver®. (Note: UPS Express Critical™ Service is not available for firearms).

UPS accepts firearm parts for shipment, provided the part is not a "firearm" as defined under federal law; the contents of the package cannot be assembled to form a firearm; and the package otherwise complies with federal, state, and local law.
(Note: Receivers or frames of a firearm and firearm mufflers/silencers (also referred to as suppressors) are considered "firearms" and are accepted for transportation only if shipped in accordance with UPS's requirements for shipping firearms.)

FedEx: How to ship firearms

FedEx's policy listed to the public is vague so ship with them if you don't know which part the ATF considers is the firearm.


What local UPS/FedEx branch employees determine is a firearm may or may not adhere to the ATF's definition.
 

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UPS: How to Ship Firearms or Ammunition

Handguns, as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921, will be accepted for transportation only via UPS Next Day Air Services, specifically, UPS Next Day Air® Early, UPS Next Day Air®, and UPS Next Day Air Saver®. (Note: UPS Express Critical™ Service is not available for firearms).

UPS accepts firearm parts for shipment, provided the part is not a "firearm" as defined under federal law; the contents of the package cannot be assembled to form a firearm; and the package otherwise complies with federal, state, and local law. (Note: Receivers or frames of a firearm and firearm mufflers/silencers (also referred to as suppressors) are considered "firearms" and are accepted for transportation only if shipped in accordance with UPS's requirements for shipping firearms.)

FedEx: How to ship firearms

FedEx's policy listed to the public is vague so ship with them if you don't know which part the ATF considers is the firearm.


What local UPS/FedEx branch employees determine is a firearm may or may not adhere to the ATF's definition.
so there is good reason to tell them what is in it...glad I did, cause the guy was interested and asked. Good info, Bud. Was pretty cheap shipping, though.
 

varminter22

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Indeed you can ship (via private carrier) to an FFL out-of-state. And the FFL can return it straight to you.

My local store (like a mailboxes etc place) is NOT a hub and accepts handguns for shipment. No problems whatsoever. But then, I'm not in the Peoples' Democratic Socialist County of Clark.