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Finish 80% 1911 Frame






LVTrenton

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The Feds have even gone so far as to say you even have to use your own tools.
I am not aware of any prosecutions for using someone else's tools to finish your 80% receiver. The law is very clear that you have to finish your own receiver, however.

@Wildrose - PM me. I have a 1911 jig you may be able to use.
 

JTW_Jr

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I am not aware of any prosecutions for using someone else's tools to finish your 80% receiver. The law is very clear that you have to finish your own receiver, however.

@Wildrose - PM me. I have a 1911 jig you may be able to use.
The law in Nevada (ab286) is even clearer, currently ( per the law on the books ) you are not legally allowed to finish an unserialized 80% lower.
 

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The law in Nevada (ab286) is even clearer, currently ( per the law on the books ) you are not legally allowed to finish an unserialized 80% lower.
Under AB286, owners of unserialized firearms must, by January 2, 2022, destroy the firearm or sell it to a licensed dealer or manufacturer who must imprint it with a serial number. There have been ZERO prosecutions of persons completing receivers to date. Under the same Bill, it is unlawful to "sell, offer to sell or transfer an unfinished frame or receiver" unless certain conditions are met and the unfinished receiver is serialized - and yet several shops in town continue to sell unfinished receivers.

In other words, what the text of the bill passed 6 months ago says and what crimes are being prosecuted are two very different things. The statute criminalizing manufacture of an unserialied firearm hasn't even been assigned a number yet, so I am unsure how the District Attorney would go about prosecuting it.

"Section 202.NEW - [Newly enacted section not yet numbered][Unlawful sale, offer to sell or transfer of unfinished frame or receiver], Nev. Rev. Stat. § 202.NEW | Casetext Search + Citator
 

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I thought this bill was being challenged in court and (I could be wrong) there's an injunction against it? Does anyone know the current status of the lawsuit?
 

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In July Polymer80 obtained a preliminary injunction barring the enforcement of Sections 3.5 and 6.9 of AB 286 - which make it illegal to sell or transfer an unfinished receiver. The rest of the bill is in effect, or will go into effect this coming January 2. Since 6.9 DEFINES an unfinished receiver, this also has the effect of delaying prosecution under much of the rest of the bill until this issue is resolved. There are indeed other challenges making their way through the courts - we will have to wait and see what rulings are handed down in those cases.

https://polymer80inc.blogspot.com/2021/07
 

JTW_Jr

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In July Polymer80 obtained a preliminary injunction barring the enforcement of Sections 3.5 and 6.9 of AB 286 - which make it illegal to sell or transfer an unfinished receiver. The rest of the bill is in effect, or will go into effect this coming January 2. Since 6.9 DEFINES an unfinished receiver, this also has the effect of delaying prosecution under much of the rest of the bill until this issue is resolved. There are indeed other challenges making their way through the courts - we will have to wait and see what rulings are handed down in those cases.

https://polymer80inc.blogspot.com/2021/07
Correct , " Preliminary Injunction barring the enforcement of Sections 3.5 and 6.9 of AB 286. "

Sec. 3.5. 1. A person shall not sell, offer to sell or transfer an unfinished
15 frame or receiver unless:
16 (a) The person is:
17 (1) A firearms importer or manufacturer; and
18 (2) The recipient of the unfinished frame or receiver is a firearms
19 importer or manufacturer; or
20 (b) The unfinished frame or receiver is required by federal law to be
21 imprinted with a serial number issued by an importer or manufacturer and the
22 unfinished frame or receiver has been imprinted with the serial number.
23 2. A person who violates this section:
24 (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and
25 (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony
26 and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

6.9 is :
9. “Unfinished frame or receiver” means a blank, a casting or a machined 8 body that is intended to be turned into the frame or lower receiver of a firearm 9 with additional machining and which has been formed or machined to the point 10 at which most of the major machining operations have been completed to turn 11 the blank, casting or machined body into a frame or lower receiver of a firearm 12 even if the fire-control cavity area of


However, there was no injunction on sec 3.1 or on Sec 5
Sec. 3. 1. A person shall not possess, purchase, transport or receive an unfinished frame or receiver unless: (a) The person is a firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The unfinished frame or receiver is required by federal law to be imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer and the unfinished frame or receiver has been imprinted with the serial number. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.


Sec. 5. 1. A person shall not possess, sell, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, transport or receive a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless: (a) The person is: (1) A law enforcement agency; or (2) A firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The firearm: (1) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (2) Was manufactured before 1969; (3) Is an antique firearm; or [(3)] (4) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 23 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section, “law enforcement agency” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 239C.065
 

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6.9 is :
9. “Unfinished frame or receiver” means a blank, a casting or a machined 8 body that is intended to be turned into the frame or lower receiver of a firearm 9 with additional machining and which has been formed or machined to the point 10 at which most of the major machining operations have been completed to turn 11 the blank, casting or machined body into a frame or lower receiver of a firearm 12 even if the fire-control cavity area of


However, there was no injunction on sec 3.1 or on Sec 5
Sec. 3. 1. A person shall not possess, purchase, transport or receive an unfinished frame or receiver unless: (a) The person is a firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The unfinished frame or receiver is required by federal law to be imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer and the unfinished frame or receiver has been imprinted with the serial number. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.


Sec. 5. 1. A person shall not possess, sell, offer to sell, transfer, purchase, transport or receive a firearm that is not imprinted with a serial number issued by a firearms importer or manufacturer in accordance with federal law and any regulations adopted thereunder unless: (a) The person is: (1) A law enforcement agency; or (2) A firearms importer or manufacturer; or (b) The firearm: (1) Has been rendered permanently inoperable; (2) Was manufactured before 1969; (3) Is an antique firearm; or [(3)] (4) Has been determined to be a collector’s item pursuant to 26 23 U.S.C. Chapter 53 or a curio or relic pursuant to 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44. 2. A person who violates this section: (a) For the first offense, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor; and (b) For the second or any subsequent offense, is guilty of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130. 3. As used in this section, “law enforcement agency” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 239C.065
Exactly. And since the temporary injunction prevents enforcement of Section 6.9, it is impossible to enforce the remainder of the Bill until the injunction is resolved, You cannot prosecute possession of a thing when there is an injunction against the law defining what that thing IS,
 

JTW_Jr

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You cannot sensibly prosecute possession of a thing when there is an injunction against the law defining what that thing IS,
Added something for you. I would not put it past the state to try to charge someone. But then, Of course when you look at the slap on the wrist the 2 guys got for stealing nfa firearms from SHOT show, who cares what laws are passed, we should ignore all the ones that violate the constitution.