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How To Become a HAM Radio Operator




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Good info as usual Steve.

I am sitting in Duck Creek, Utah and have my radio tuned into the intermountain intertie system on 2 meters and I just heard a guy up in the mountains east of Salt Lake City put out a distress call as he is in some remote location and got his truck stuck. (Sounds like an old fart like me.) A ham heard him and got his gps coordinates and is on his way to help him out which is good since there are thunder storms and rain all over Utah right now.

Good that the old fart has a ham radio and good that a fellow ham is willing to help. I will be buying a cheap etex gps to put in my truck survival bag too.
 
Jerry, considering you are 60 sometnhing, perhaps you could define "old fart" for us....a good story though.

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Good info as usual Steve.

I am sitting in Duck Creek, Utah and have my radio tuned into the intermountain intertie system on 2 meters and I just heard a guy up in the mountains east of Salt Lake City put out a distress call as he is in some remote location and got his truck stuck. (Sounds like an old fart like me.) A ham heard him and got his gps coordinates and is on his way to help him out which is good since there are thunder storms and rain all over Utah right now.

Good that the old fart has a ham radio and good that a fellow ham is willing to help. I will be buying a cheap etex gps to put in my truck survival bag too.
A high quality compass, topo maps of the area you are in are a good backup to have in that survival bag for when the GPS batteries are dead!

Learning how to convert Degrees, Minutes and Seconds into Decimal degrees, and vice versa (simple math either way) is handy too, you wouldn't believe how many folks can only deal with one or the other but not both.
 
A high quality compass, topo maps of the area you are in are a good backup to have in that survival bag for when the GPS batteries are dead!

Learning how to convert Degrees, Minutes and Seconds into Decimal degrees, and vice versa (simple math either way) is handy too, you wouldn't believe how many folks can only deal with one or the other but not both.
Here is a couple of links to help those interested.:001_tongue:

http://geography.about.com/library/howto/htdegrees.htm
http://geography.about.com/c/ht/00/07/How_Convert_Decimal_Degrees0962932697.htm

And for those who want a program

http://transition.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html
 

calmp9

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The latest model is the UV-5RE+ (plus). Should be about $37 including shipping. I have this model and use it just for listening currently since I don't have a license yet. Pick up the programming cable if you get one -- they run about $10 or so.

At the super low price of these things, I am going to pick up a few more, program them all for the same freq's, and put them in the go bags for the extended family. I also got an inexpensive throat mic from amazon -- will be picking up a few more of those as well.
The model that I have heard hams talk about is the UV-B5. I am not sure if this is available in the U.S. Most ordered it on Ali Express. One ham mentioned that he got his for $43.50.
 

sYnOnYx

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Call me a radio snob,

but the Baofeng that I used for 3 days was horrible. Spend an extra $100 and get a FT-60 and save yourself headaches from the Chinese junk. Alot of people claim they've had good experiences with them, but I believe they must be in denial or have never used a quality radio before.
 

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Call me a radio snob,

but the Baofeng that I used for 3 days was horrible. Spend an extra $100 and get a FT-60 and save yourself headaches from the Chinese junk. Alot of people claim they've had good experiences with them, but I believe they must be in denial or have never used a quality radio before.
^^^ I'm going to side with Rory on this one.

The Wouxons aren't too bad, but both those and the Baofengs that I have had to program (and teach their owners how to use) are a good deal more difficult to program, even with the software and the cable, than a Yaesu, or Icom, or Alinco or Kenwood. And because I have to keep showing the owners how to program them (the two Chinese radios I mean) when they hit an odd combination of buttons and wipe out all the existing programming, I am fairly conversant with them.

The Yaesu FT60 sYnOnYx mentions is very easy to program, it's the model our club recommends most often to new hams joining us. It's also a very solid radio with long battery life, and very ruggedly built. And you can find it for around $150 new, if you search the web.
 
Call me a radio snob,

but the Baofeng that I used for 3 days was horrible. Spend an extra $100 and get a FT-60 and save yourself headaches from the Chinese junk. Alot of people claim they've had good experiences with them, but I believe they must be in denial or have never used a quality radio before.
I've never tried a Baofeng or Wouxan, but being that they're both chinese, I won't buy them, not when I have alternatives like the FT-60R which is a great handheld. It's easy to program and operate and the audio is great! I have a couple of them, one on my bicycle with a 7aH SLA battery & Diamond antenna.

(Regarding chinese-made products, there are some things that we have no choice as all the manufacturers have gone to China, such as Hunter fans that used to be U.S. made, and all the others at Lowe's & Home Depot are all made there as well, etc., etc. Thank GOD we can still get American made guns and ammo! 2A all the way!)
 
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calmp9

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I've never tried a Baofeng or Wouxan, but being that they're both chinese, I won't buy them, not when I have alternatives like the FT-60R which is a great handheld. It's easy to program and operate and the audio is great! I have a couple of them, one on my bicycle with a 7aH SLA battery & Diamond antenna.

(Regarding chinese-made products, there are some things that we have no choice as all the manufacturers have gone to China, such as Hunter fans that used to be U.S. made, and all the others at Lowe's & Home Depot are all made there as well, etc., etc. Thank GOD we can still get American made guns and ammo! 2A all the way!)
I won't buy those cheap Chinese HTs either. A lot of people have them and really like them once they get them programmed. I learned my lesson a long time ago. You get what you pay for. I'm sticking to the main three: Yaesu, Icom and Kenwood, not necessarily in that order.
 
I never went for the HAM license back in the day, I was working at the Travis AFB, CA MARS station doing phone patches and relaying messages from servicement to their families through the MARS system of HAM radio enthusiasts network, reading the letters and having them type them out and either mail or call the families with the info. Back before the internet and cell phones!

Working mids, I would tune our Collins HF/SSB radios to listen to other HAM's talk to each other. When I got bored with that, I would tune our Collins R390 and listen to other stations and set my watch to WWV.

I did have a CB license back when there were only 21 channels!
 

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Lil help please. I need to find out how I can listen in on a wild fire in Ca. It's called the Sharp Fire in Wrightwood, Ca. (link below).

I have the Wouxun KG-UV3D. Even though I've had my lic for over a year I've only used local repeaters and simplex. So basic instructions would be helpful.

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3607/
 

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Lil help please. I need to find out how I can listen in on a wild fire in Ca. It's called the Sharp Fire in Wrightwood, Ca. (link below).

I have the Wouxun KG-UV3D. Even though I've had my lic for over a year I've only used local repeaters and simplex. So basic instructions would be helpful.

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/3607/

If you are near the fire area, set the Wouxon to scan in the 136-174 MHz band, and it should pick up any traffic from the fire fighters.

Sorry Skot, but if you are in Las Vegas, you won't be able to listen into the fire with the Wouxon, the fire is waaaaay too far away for you to be able to receive the signal from the frequencies generally used by wild land fire fighters nation wide.

They are in the 150-170 MHz range, usually around 155-158 Mhz in most places, which your radio does receive, but they are line of sight, max distance without a repeater for those 100 watt radios they use in that terrain is going to be maybe 50-60 miles.

Some of them will be using 700-800 MHz frequencies, which have an even shorter line of sight distance, and the Wouxon doesn't receive those anyway.

You might be able to find a web sight, there are quite a few, that will let you listen to commercial radio traffic bands, for police, fire, etc. nation wide by selecting the state, city, etc. but I don't know of one off hand that covers that area of CA.
 

skot

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Thanks Steve. I appreciate your reply. I ended up creating a Twitter account just for this. I've never had one before, but it seems pretty useful for following unfolding events like this one.
 

bplv

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NYECOGunsmith, as the resident Yaesu expert, where do you stand on their new System Fusion radios/repeaters?

I'm in the market for a mobile and APRS built in to the radio looks like a neat deal. APRS seems very handy for off-roading applications. For mobiles, that limits me to an aging Kenwood or bleeding edge Yaesu FTM-400DR. (or running a secondary system which I'd prefer to avoid)

I'm not terribly excited about a brand new digital standard though. I doubt there any repeaters in S NV now and it seems like a gamble on a standard in a format war.

And the radio seems to have some shortcomings that "could" potentially be fixed with firmware updates. The most annoying seem to be the that you can't lock on a station and navigate to it. It looks like the 350 has had at least a few firmware updates. (and it could also do this from what I read)
 

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NYECOGunsmith, as the resident Yaesu expert, where do you stand on their new System Fusion radios/repeaters?

I'm in the market for a mobile and APRS built in to the radio looks like a neat deal. APRS seems very handy for off-roading applications. For mobiles, that limits me to an aging Kenwood or bleeding edge Yaesu FTM-400DR. (or running a secondary system which I'd prefer to avoid)

I'm not terribly excited about a brand new digital standard though. I doubt there any repeaters in S NV now and it seems like a gamble on a standard in a format war.

And the radio seems to have some shortcomings that "could" potentially be fixed with firmware updates. The most annoying seem to be the that you can't lock on a station and navigate to it. It looks like the 350 has had at least a few firmware updates. (and it could also do this from what I read)
In reverse order, yes, the FT350AR would do what you want, and they are firmware upgradeable.

But you can't lock onto a station and navigate to it, although you can do that I believe with the VX8DR handheld that has APRS in it, plus GPS.

If all you want is a APRS transponder, check out the Micro Trak

http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php

You can operate either digital or analog with the FTM400DR, however as you noted there are no digital repeaters in S NV as far as I know at this time.

While you can't navigate to another APRS transmitter with it, if you were 4 wheeling in a group and you were running drag, and the guy at the lead had a FTM 400DR as well, every time you transmit to him or receive a transmission from you, the GPS in the two rigs will tell both of you how far apart you are.

That's a bit better than using APRS as the beacon rate on them is usually set to 2 minutes or more, so the distance you are apart would be related to how long ago the beacon transmitted and your rate of closure or departure.

the FTM400DR lacks the cross band repeater function, but ONLY in the digital mode, it DOES have cross band repeat capability in analog mode, which can be handy when 4 wheeling and camping in the boonies.

On the plus side, with a USB port on the side, you can hook it up to a tablet, laptop, etc. and use the GPS function of the radio along with a navigation program to navigate streets, highways and off road. It also has a Micro SD card slot so you can up and down load info to it that way.

As for the System Fusion radios/repeaters, they were just announced in late September, and released first week or so of this month, I haven't seen any information on them beyond the announcement data, so I really can't comment on them for you. They are backward compatible (can do analog repeating as well as digital) which is a plus, but I don't much care for the quality of digital voice comms to begin with, so I won't be purchasing any digital rig in the near future.

The ones I have heard so far all sound pinched, and the audio quality is not as good as analog FM in sound quality, not to my ears anyway.
 

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Just thought I'd jump on. Ready to take my Tech test on Dec 7th in Vegas. Passing all of the practice tests at 94%+. Started reading the KB6NU "No Nonsense General Class License Study Guide" and my brain just wasn't going there. For the heck of it, I tried a general class test on HamExam.org and scored 57%. I'll try some memorization there to try to get me by, even though HF isn't my primary goal at this point.

Do any of you guys know about applying for an itinerant license?
 

STV_Keith

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I've been passing the tech and general license practice exams on hamexam.org at 94% or better, so I think I'm ready to go for the test tomorrow. Looking forward to it!
 

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I've been passing the tech and general license practice exams on hamexam.org at 94% or better, so I think I'm ready to go for the test tomorrow. Looking forward to it!
If you're hitting 94% at the least, you'll be golden. Go as far as you can! You pay for the session, no matter how many tests you take, so what's the harm?
 
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I've been passing the tech and general license practice exams on hamexam.org at 94% or better, so I think I'm ready to go for the test tomorrow. Looking forward to it!
Since you're doing so well on practice tests you should do great on the actual tests.

Good luck on your Technician & General Class license tests!

BTW, be sure and start studying for your Extra Class license as well. As long as your in the "study" zone keep up the good work.

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