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Precision Rifle Scopes

How important is a good quality durable scope to you?

  • As important as the rifle. No shortcuts here or cutting corners here.

    Votes: 168 78.1%
  • Important but not as much as the rifle. Possible place to save money.

    Votes: 21 9.8%
  • Somewhat important. A $200 or $300 scopes will do.

    Votes: 26 12.1%

  • Total voters

Vortex viper PST 6-24x50 FFP
Bad ass as far as I know
~850 rounds .308
I could have probably gone with the 16x model and while the glass is clear at max magnification I don't need 24x to see waving blurry air. I'm new to scopes but the parallax numbers mean nothing. They don't correspond to actual distances. The illuminated reticle with 10 settings is another cool feature that I've never used.

The scope uses shims to set the zero stop which took about 3 minutes. 19 mils of up elevation. I counted 27 with the 20 moa base. Much more than I need. Holds zero and everything is nice and tight.

Dr. Marneaus

Wheel Gun Guy
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1. SWFA SS 3-9x42 - $600

2. Bad Ass Glass for the price it seems.
3. Roughly 500 rounds of .223 and 5.56
4. Beefy, simple, and seems very rugged. Very clear glass. Returns to zero every time, adjustments appear consistent. Only dislike is that the "clicks" are not super positive. They are there and easy to feel, but it really doesn't "click".
5. Absolutely no special features, 2 knobs and thats it, which is why i wanted it!
6. Purchased directly from SWFA



Big Stick policy
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How about a precision *Rimfire* scope review?

  1. Mueller 8.5-25x50 Eraticator (Black). Bought it for $230 from Joe Bob Outfitters.com back in 2012.
  2. Bad Ass Glass (for the $$$)
  3. Approx. 1000 rounds of .22lr
  4. Likes: Very clear glass even at max power. Holding zero so far. Very fine crosshairs with a lit target dot (which I never use) with 11 brightness settings. Out of the box there was a flaw on the reticle which was odd, but Rich at Mueller Optics replaced it no charge, and the replacement has been solid.
    Dislikes: the light dial is really REALLY tight and almost impossible to turn when I'm in prone. Turret caps are annoying, I would prefer exposed turrets. Range focus on the objective is a little difficult to adjust in prone, side focus would've been better. And honestly, I'm still trying to figure out what happens when you pass the first full turn on the elevation knob (apparently the reviewer at SniperCentral had the same issue with a Mueller tactical - looks like all their models have the same quirk).
  5. Don't know if this counts as special, but it came with a sun shade, two batteries, and bikini rings.
  6. I doubt if any LGS carry this but wouldn't hurt to check. Otherwise, online is the way to go. You can also buy them directly from Mueller Optics.


This scope has a permanent place on my Savage BTV bolt gun, and I can shoot the wings off a fly with it. Overall, I'd say this is a very good rimfire scope (I believe that is its intended purpose although YMMV), especially for bench rest shooting. But I would hesitate to use it on any larger calibers.
1. Vortex Razor HD gen ii 4.5-27x56
4. It is a bit on the heavy side, but cost makes up for that for sure $2238. to my door. From europtic
ill update as i start getting rounds under its glass.
I can read the South Points Casinos lunch specials from my backyard and its about 4miles away
Burris XTR II 5-25 FFP SCR reticle
Bad ass as far as I can tell maybe a tad bit clearer than a comparable vortex PST.
150 rounds so far just testing in a Ruger RPR. Turrets feel solid, thing tracts true and has 25 Mils of total travel. I like the vortex PST zero stop better. These scopes ship with no downward elevation and in order to get on target without hold under you have to remove the cap and retighten. Kinda goofy IMO but everyone has their own way to do it. Tube is 34mm which limits ring choices but mine came with the Burris signature rings that allow you to add another 20MOA.


"Ho'old on there"
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2019 Supporter
Updated and reposted:

  1. Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50MM FFP MRAD. $1100
  2. Bad Ass Glass.
  3. So far 200 rounds but high expectations and a lifetime no questions asked warrantee.
  4. See below
  5. See below
  6. I got mine from Cameraland and was one of the only two that I've heard of being shipped so far.
Well I got out to the range today to zero the PST and start checking DOPE while changing my Kestrel from MOA to MIL on this rifle. Changing over the Kestrel went easily and all DOPE in Mils dialed right in.

Without getting into a long drawn out review I'll just make a few observations. When I get out tomorrow for a regular practice I may have more to say.

I really like the infinite adjustment on the elevation turret when zeroing. Too many times my zero was a portion of a click high or low and I just had to live with it. It was nice today to fine tune that little portion before locking up the turret and getting the zero dead-nuts. I also like the smooth dial and distinct clicks on both the elevation and windage turrets. The new zero stop is soooooo much better than the shims on the Gen 1. Now it is a very solid stop, too nice.

While we're at it the zoom is also very smooth with just the right amount of resistance. The parallax is also very forgiving although it will take a few times out to get the feel of grabbing the inside dial for parallax and not the reticle illumination knob. I do like the illumination on the side though as compared to the Gen 1 location. My caps never fit right with that silly location.

They eyebox is a little tight on max zoom but I only use max zoom when shooting small on single location targets anyway so not too critical for me. Once off of max it is very easy to get good position quickly. I've decided to dial back a tad when I need to get in close, 20 - 22x makes everything much more forgiving. I find that I can read the subtensions easily all the way through the zoom range. Running holdover stages while trying to use lower zoom settings to get wider FOV's is a plus with a FFP scope.

I'll just say that the glass is very nice for a scope in this price range. We could all try to give opinions and make comparisons with nothing really accomplished. It is clear and bright edge to edge. Colors are crisp and true. I had no problem getting a crisp image of a 1 1/2 MOA target at 1005 yards and even seeing hits on the steel.

I'll call it a keeper, at least until Vortex can ship my AMG's and then it will go on the wife's precision rifle. Overall it is an very capable tactical precision rifle scope at a great price point. A great value.
1. S&B PMII 5-25x56 (MSR) $3000+/-
2. Bad Ass Glass!
3. Give or take 500 rounds of .308 (too lazy to get my log book)
4. Beefy AF!!! I love the MSR Reticle and with the USMC turrets this is a very good looking scope! Aesthetics go a long way for me but never supersede function. Super clear glass.
5. MSR, CCW Turrets, illuminated reticle, adjustable parallax.
6. Euro-Optic.

1. Nightforce NXS 5-22x50 Mil-Dot (C196) $1600
2. Bad Ass Glass!
3. About 1500 rds of .308.
4. Rugged AF.
5. Locking Ocular piece.
6. Optics-planet.

1. Nightforce NXS F1 3-15x50 (C359) $2500
3. 1500 rds .308
4. Beefy, rugged. Very clear glass.
5. MIL-R Reticle.
6. Euro-Optic

I have a few more cheap ones but they are on pellet guns or .22's.
Bushnell ERS 3.5 - 21 x 50

I love my Bushnell ERS scope. I got it with a Horus H59 reticle which I also like for PRS competition. LESS DIALING!
The ERS was on a slight sale so I go it for $1,800. B/C of the extra cost for the H59 reticle.

**My scope placed 9th out of 18 scopes very thoroughly tested in "Precision Rifle Blog" and was deemed "best for the money".

I do wish Bushnell had their XRS 4 - 30 x 50 scope on the market when I was looking for a long range scope. I told my buddy to get one for his new gen.2 RPR and he did. It's just a great scope.

Eric B.


"Ho'old on there"
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Athlon has become a player in the budget market and in a few of their top scopes. They bring full features at a lower price point as their sales strategy but you give up a little of the fine points like in the way things feel. Lifetime no hassle warrantee.